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	<title>Comments on: James McGovern::thought leadershit</title>
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	<description>Matt Secoske's intermittent ramblings on software and life</description>
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		<title>By: thoughts.on.code :: What is Success in the Enterprise?</title>
		<link>http://blog.secosoft.net/2006/03/22/james-mcgovernthought-leadershit/#comment-4142</link>
		<dc:creator>thoughts.on.code :: What is Success in the Enterprise?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I got a comment on my James McGovern::Thought Leadershit blog post earlier today, ostensibly from James himself, that I feel compelled to respond to:  Don&#8217;t have such a low threshold for measuring success. Success is Java, .NET, XML, Web Services, SOA, etc. Ruby has potential and an upward trajectory but can&#8217;t yet be called successful. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I got a comment on my James McGovern::Thought Leadershit blog post earlier today, ostensibly from James himself, that I feel compelled to respond to:  Don&#8217;t have such a low threshold for measuring success. Success is Java, .NET, XML, Web Services, SOA, etc. Ruby has potential and an upward trajectory but can&#8217;t yet be called successful. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blog.secosoft.net/2006/03/22/james-mcgovernthought-leadershit/#comment-4128</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't have such a low threshold for measuring success. Success is Java, .NET, XML, Web Services, SOA, etc. Ruby has potential and an upward trajectory but can't yet be called successful.

In terms of getting large enterprises whose primary business model isn't technology involved in Ruby benefits Ruby by the simple fact that this demographic represents 90% (The masses) of all IT folks. More importantly, this same demographic has 590% more capital than the 10% that Ruby currently has. Capital allows folks to accelerate the growth, features and adoption of all the hard work the Ruby community put into it.

You should noodle this thought and even if you agree slightly, you should amplify it in your next blog entry...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t have such a low threshold for measuring success. Success is Java, .NET, XML, Web Services, SOA, etc. Ruby has potential and an upward trajectory but can&#8217;t yet be called successful.</p>
<p>In terms of getting large enterprises whose primary business model isn&#8217;t technology involved in Ruby benefits Ruby by the simple fact that this demographic represents 90% (The masses) of all IT folks. More importantly, this same demographic has 590% more capital than the 10% that Ruby currently has. Capital allows folks to accelerate the growth, features and adoption of all the hard work the Ruby community put into it.</p>
<p>You should noodle this thought and even if you agree slightly, you should amplify it in your next blog entry&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://blog.secosoft.net/2006/03/22/james-mcgovernthought-leadershit/#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would love your thoughts on this blog: http://enterprisearchitect.typepad.com/ea/2006/04/enterprise_arch.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would love your thoughts on this blog: <a href="http://enterprisearchitect.typepad.com/ea/2006/04/enterprise_arch.html" rel="nofollow">http://enterprisearchitect.typepad.com/ea/2006/04/enterprise_arch.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thought Leadership</title>
		<link>http://blog.secosoft.net/2006/03/22/james-mcgovernthought-leadershit/#comment-919</link>
		<dc:creator>Thought Leadership</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Is James McGovern too Enterprisey?...&lt;/strong&gt;

I have been noodling several things said by David Heinemeier Hansson and James Robertson who are co-Presidents of my fan club and their interesting outsider looking in perspectives on the enterprise. Felt it was not only important to respond to their.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Is James McGovern too Enterprisey?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I have been noodling several things said by David Heinemeier Hansson and James Robertson who are co-Presidents of my fan club and their interesting outsider looking in perspectives on the enterprise. Felt it was not only important to respond to their&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.secosoft.net/2006/03/22/james-mcgovernthought-leadershit/#comment-784</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ThoughtLeader: I've shared my thoughts on your Community Maturity Models post on your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ThoughtLeader: I&#8217;ve shared my thoughts on your Community Maturity Models post on your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Thought Leadership</title>
		<link>http://blog.secosoft.net/2006/03/22/james-mcgovernthought-leadershit/#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator>Thought Leadership</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Community Maturity Models...&lt;/strong&gt;

I think I have discovered a predictor of enterprise adoption and its
correlation to the maturity of a community that I wanted to share......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Community Maturity Models&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I think I have discovered a predictor of enterprise adoption and its<br />
correlation to the maturity of a community that I wanted to share&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.secosoft.net/2006/03/22/james-mcgovernthought-leadershit/#comment-738</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for pointing that out Roger.  I was not aware of a fee-to-be-considered "thing" with the Jolt awards.  It kindof makes sense though, only the people who think they have a shot would throw up the dough.

I'm sure your right on the consulting thing, but I do not have the proof, as I am just a local consultant at this stage in my career, and have only worked with the big dogs in a few limited scenarios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing that out Roger.  I was not aware of a fee-to-be-considered &#8220;thing&#8221; with the Jolt awards.  It kindof makes sense though, only the people who think they have a shot would throw up the dough.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure your right on the consulting thing, but I do not have the proof, as I am just a local consultant at this stage in my career, and have only worked with the big dogs in a few limited scenarios.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Culter</title>
		<link>http://blog.secosoft.net/2006/03/22/james-mcgovernthought-leadershit/#comment-736</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Culter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the books, James is referring to the fact that in order to be considered for a Jolt award, the author/publisher had to pay $300. Books that got the award were not selected from a large universe but from those who wanted to pay the fee.

Thoughtworks and ObjectMentor are interesting but in the grand scheme of things tiny and irrelevant. Why not simply prove him wrong with fact by showing him a case study from Wipro or Accenture on success stories in this space.

Arguments to date seem to be from different perspectives but no one has proven him wrong with facts. It shouldn't be that hard to show one or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the books, James is referring to the fact that in order to be considered for a Jolt award, the author/publisher had to pay $300. Books that got the award were not selected from a large universe but from those who wanted to pay the fee.</p>
<p>Thoughtworks and ObjectMentor are interesting but in the grand scheme of things tiny and irrelevant. Why not simply prove him wrong with fact by showing him a case study from Wipro or Accenture on success stories in this space.</p>
<p>Arguments to date seem to be from different perspectives but no one has proven him wrong with facts. It shouldn&#8217;t be that hard to show one or two.</p>
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